السبت، مارس 01، 2014

حوار عبر التويتر مع أحد أفاقي البت كوين



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Our 90+ Page Report on the State of Bitcoin 2014 will be Released Shortly #BTCReport2014 pic.twitter.com/TPDuWFA7E7
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@coindesk BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU INVEST IN BITCOIN. IT IS THE ABSOLUTE SYMBOL OF SPECULATION AND POSSIBLE LOSS OF YOUR FORTUNE ANYTIME
فتدخل شخص اسمه الحركي SamSwisher ورد علي بهذا التعليق
@elsakka Government fiat is THE ABSOLUTE SYMBOL OF SPECULATION AND POSSIBLE LOSS OF YOUR FORTUNE ANYTIME
أنا
@SamSwisher Government fiat is monetary policy that changes with economic conditions with monetary policy to support in hard times +
هو
@elsakka This is incorrect. Fiat is continually diluted through overprinting and this is passed on to consumers through inflation.
أنا
@SamSwisher inflation of the Bitcoin is even more dangerous, If we use it as a currency we will all turn into beggars. TRY TO LEARN ECONOMICS
هو
@elsakka Bitcoin is a deflationary currency and is not subject to inflation. Please explain how using Bitcoin "makes us beggars."
أنا موضحا له جهله
@SamSwisher Your tweet has the answer, Deflation turns people into BEGGARS, with Bitcoin there will be no economic growth BUT DEFLATION
لم يستطع استكمال النقاش حول هذه النقطة، فرد متهربا
@elsakka Bitcoin is an Internet protocol, governed by math, that's globally accepted. Paper money has been tried (and abused) for centuries.
أنا
@SamSwisher Printed money goes to the government to be spent on schools roads... etc, BITCOIN PROFITS GO TO WHOM, WHAT DO THEY DO WITH IT?
هو في رد سطحي
@elsakka the real purpose of paper $ is to fund wars countries would not be able to fund otherwise. 2% of the national budget is education.
أنا
@SamSwisher The % of war expenditures is not that high to justify the introduction of fake currencies that has no legal tender
@SamSwisher And again this is a diversion of the main argument. #Bitcoin has no future but the one that MtGox is having today, remember this
@SamSwisher And what about the countries that doesn't spend on wars, should we also use #Bitcoin instead of their currencies?
لم يستطع اكمال النقاش حول هذه النقطة فرد متهربا مرة أخرى من النقاش
@elsakka People should be FREE to use whatever currency they want. #Bitcoin is just another option. Its accepted globally. Fiat is fenced.
@elsakka Just as #gold is accepted around the world, #Bitcoin can be transacted with minimal fees, no charge-backs, and without 3rd parties.
@elsakka "Fake" is a very subjective term and can be used to describe the value of consistently overprinted fiat. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation …
@elsakka What % of war expenditures does justify the creation of a better form of money? Fiat was introduced in the 1700s, #BTC is 5 y/o.
أنا
@SamSwisher you'd better read the history of money well, dont get mislead by #bitcoin thieves. Dont repeat what u dont understand
@SamSwisher It seems that U dont understand what you are talking about. The argument of hyper-inflation is misused by #bitcoin thieves +
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@elsakka This is the problem with governments. They are all about control of their citizens. Bitcoin aims to be BETER and NOT hyperinflate
أنا
@SamSwisher  OH, you mean to HYPER-DEFLATE
@SamSwisher WE ARE NOT FREE, we live in countries with institutions and a responsibility to protect us from the like MtGox
لاحظ أنه يتهرب من الحديث حول MtGox فرد متهربا مرة أخرى
@elsakka #Bitcoin was created to imitate the characteristics of gold and could go to zero (just like BTC). How will banks control it?
أنا
@SamSwisher Very easy, a decision by central banks to prohibit the use of it, just as Russia recently did, it would have no value, simple
@SamSwisher Gold is the ultimate value, no asset in the world is like it, comparing gold with #Bitcoin is pathetic
@SamSwisher Listen, If you put your fiat money in a bank you are liable to deposit insurance, if you put them in MtGox, you dont have it
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@elsakka Just as drugs are illegal, the illegal drug trade made $321.6 billion JUST in 2003. This is nearly 46X the value of ALL BTC.
فرددت عليه بالضربة القاضية
@SamSwisher HERE WE ARE, YOU COME TO MY CONCLUSION, THIS IS A ROBBERY AND A ZERO SUM GAME YOUR PROFIT COMES FROM MY POCKET ND VICE VERSA
لم يستطع اكمال النقاش حول هذه النقطة، وحول الموضوع الى نقطة أخرى مبينا جهله
@elsakka Unfortunately, gold must be transacted physically and therefore cannot benefit from the network effects of the Internet.
أنا
@SamSwisher No no, not necessarily, GOLD does not physically moved to be transacted.
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@elsakka This is true, but it requires a 3rd party. Decentralization is one of #Bitcoins greatest assets.
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@SamSwisher we are talking about a legal tender, not a fake tender, look at MtGox depositors now. Do you hear their cry.. decentraliztion!!

لاحظ أنه يتجنب الإشارة من قريب أو بعد للـ MtGox، وفي رد مثير للشفقة
@elsakka Try banning #Bitcoin and governments will learn how banning #Napster pushed #BitTorrent to account for 35% of ALL upload traffic.
أنا
@SamSwisher and network effects of the internet would carry the seeds of the end of cryptocurrencies like #Bitcoin
هو متهربا مرة أخرى من النقاش حول هذه النقطة
@elsakka http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect … “The more people who own telephones, the more valuable the telephone is to each owner.”
أنا محاولا إعادته إلى ما لا يفهم فيه
@SamSwisher dont try to escape from the main argument. There is no good argument behind #Bitcoin
هو عاجزا عن النقاش حولني إلى رابط يشرح ما هو الكساد السعري
فرددت عليه
@SamSwisher I am a professor of economics & money and banking. I teach this. My advice to you is read more about economics of bubbles, BYE.
هو عاجزا يرد بنفس الرد الذي طالما كتبت عنه في مقالاتي عن الأزمات (الوضع مختلف هذه المرة)
أنا منهيا النقاش
@SamSwisher Young man, wait till I see your photo in front of internet effects centers like MtGox crying "where is our money", BYE


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